It is common knowledge that Scotland, Wales and both Irish countries dont really support England in competitions. there are a couple of reasons and i will explain them to you - but to understand you really need to be something other than english.
1) The media - this is a HUGE factor. All we hear in the news is about England Footy team. and Wayne rooneys broken foot. Today the THIRD story was about Al-Quedia's Iraqi leader has been killed- i am sorry that is more important than Ronneys foot. Then after the news and it went to sport they taked about how Roooooney was back in Germany - so TWO stories about him. Also every time a competion is on the media always refer back to 19 sodden 66 (no sour grapes for me Scotland will never win the world cup as we dont have enough people to chose from to get a decent side) but because england won it 40 years ago the press recon that they will win it again and refer back to 40 years ago EVERYTIME they talk about the world cup (Scotland beat England in there 1st game after they won the world cup) there is too much media attention and people are sick of it. I know i live in England but everyone else in the UK gets BBC and Skysports! there is even more TV programs about England winning the world cup than there is about the da vinci code. its the same with Wimbledon - if Andrew Murrey does well its "the British hopes lie on Murrey" if he looses "the Scot Andy murrey has been knocked out" and the other 2 brits as well are expected to win wimbledon - no they wont as they are not good enough and there is too much pressure on them
2) Flags on cars! HOW annoying are they! no other country has them - it adds to the rep that they are a bunch of scrubbers and hooligans! 10 years ago they would of been accused of being in the BNP - oh and now stickers on the cars too! dear god!
3) The fact the EVERY englisman thinks that we will be supporting anyone else - fine we will.
I want England to do as well as they can - just not win it - we wont hear the last of it. But with the pressure of the media i dont think they will. They have a superb team full of superstars so they have a chance.
Still cant wait till it all starts tho!
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I must admit i find it odd that someone like Andrew Murray will go out of his way to say he's supporting Paraguay in the world cup but has loads of English supporters when he plays his games.
Still, i'm looking forward to the world cup big time!!
Stop being gay and jealous that England are in it and the other home countries aren't.
Unfortunately for Wales, Scotland and Ireland England is the dominant country in these isles and if it weren't for the English you'd all be as poor and as famined as a backward tin pot dictatorship in Africa and all be walking around with pot bellies like Ethiopians.
I'm sure if Scotland were the dominant country in the UK we'd never hear the end of it if they qualified for the World Cup and they wouldn't give a fuck about anyone else being offended by it. Same goes for Wales, they're more nationalistic than anyone and throw pint glasses at Englishmen in Welsh pubs - it happened to me during an England rugby match.
OK of the 15 world Cups that Scotland and England has entered, England has been to 12 and Scotland to only 8, unfortunatly they have never got past the first round. England have gone out in the first round twice, second round twice, 1/4 finals five times, semi-final. We won once in the only final we got too.
Scotland failed to qualify 6 times and England 3 times. So overall England have managed to do better overall. However, the most important question is if your National Team qulifies for the world cup, would you withdraw??? Well Scotland did in 1950 who know it could have been there year! We will never know.
Anyway final point is if anyone saw the top 50 goals on Five last night hosted by Colin Murray you would have seen that the best home countries goal was by none other than .............Archie Gemmill against Holland in 1978, so you can be happy with that.
the welsh are ok with the Scots - i was watching wales V scotland rugby in a proper wlesh pub - fantastic fun they all sung flower of Scotland and when wales beat Scotland in the footy me and my bro and my scottish mates all were out in Cardiff with the wlesh - great fun.
they just dont like the english ;)
1930 to 1938 - Did not enter
1950 - Did not qualify
1954 - Did not qualify
1958 - Quarter-finals
1962 to 2006 - Did not qualify
The Welsh world cup record, frankly its rubbish, but still in the world cup they did go to they got further than scotland and england who both went out in the 1st round
Come off it we are all as bad as each other, if Wales, Scotland or Ireland were in the cup you wouldnt go out your way to support them being English. Seems everyone English expects us not to support England though. Its just local rivalry and its in every sport. Cardiff Hate Swansea... Spurs hate Arsenal... no reason we just do.
Just be glad it was rugby and not footie Johnny, you most likely not come back! Rugby is much more civilised. I stood in a rugby match with James, Yve and Tosh singing cardiff songs in the middle of the Gloucester end. Was Quality. Do that in a footie game and your gonna get murdered.
Back to footie...I hope england do well and wish them luck i wont go out of my way to support them, likewise I wont sit in a corner and cry when england get knocked out on Peno's yet again.
I also dont want to read about every single neance of the team either... things like Sven taking turkish baths and the like just dont interest me and put me off the whole thing. It made me laugh the other night when they were running through the World cup years England have qualified.. and my oh my did the quickly skip over 1994 the year Enaland didnt qualify and Scotland did.
The only reason I can think of to why England should not the cup is because of media. I cant go another 40 years hearing how wonderful england are and how much they should win. Media is pro English and its anoying to the point you just give up on it all. Like the N.Ireland game... talked so much how england lost it and how crap england were. Fuck england, lets give credit to the plucky Irish lads who went out there and played with spirit for 90 mins. They did awesome. Its things like that they cheese us off.
http://www.24dash.com/content/columnists/viewColumn.php?columnID=34
A short report by Ricky George on why the Scottish hate the English sporting achievements
Haha also remember a plug Moyles did on the radio, aparently he supports all the home nations and wanted them all to qualify. He mentioned this to a scotish lad while they were there at Dundee. The Scotish lad was very impressed with Moyles support for scotland and even say
"Aye thets downright decent of ya that be".
Then Moyles asked if the scotiish lad would support england during the world cup and he replied
"Feck nay pal, Brazil all the way. Like the way they play, reminds me of scotland"
I just though that was funny.
Well at least we are not Brazillian, who in a blunder issued a copy of the national newspaper before the final match in 1950 showing the team with the caption world cup winners below it. The whole country was shocked when they were beaten by Uruguay, Brazil were hosting they expected to win and then for three days afterward the country was in football mourning.
Now that is an example fo taking football to seriously. But they then went on to show the rest of the world how to play football from 1958 onwards.
haha good one benji... I would like for all English to envisage the following scenario after 1998 World Cup.
Summer 1998; Freench Win the World Cup.
Summer 1998: French TV comapnies buy out SKY, BBC and HTV. From now on during and after every football macth commenrty pans to the Magnicifcent French vicotry and indepth reviews on how great French are at everything. You begin to learn the ins and outs of every single member of the team. You learn how often Zidane needs a shit every day. You also learn how wonderful the French Leagues are and how they are the best in the world bar none.
Autumn 1998: Commentary continues with a 1 mintue review of the england squad and 45 mintues devoted to france.
December 1998: French Media having successfully buying the TV now purchase newspapers. Every single day you begin to hear about the French National coach and superstar captain over your monring coffee.
Jan 1999: Entire French Squad Knighted.
Rest 1999: More coverage every week on the great footballing French Nation. Zidane is named Next Prime Minister. French football is great. Everyone else is kinda crap. Maybe Brazil or ok sometimes.
2000 American TV begins to broadcast on mainstrem channels. America football team spotlighted every week. England dropped from Mainstream tv and is reduced to local regional tv. America is more important.
2000-2038: Relive past glories. Continue in the theme of French must win world cup every year cos they are the best. Everyone Sucks.
Yup thats pretty much what Wales, Scotland and Ireland have to put up with every year
before this world cup Scotland had quailifed more times than england (or maybe it was last one) stil la good record!
YOU ALL SEEM TO BE FORGETTING THAT YOU ARE LIVING IN ENGLAND and hence will watch things relating to England on the TV.
If you don't like it move back to Ethiopia.
;o)
I said already in the main bit
"I know i live in England but everyone else in the UK gets BBC and Skysports!"
read properly!
Tosh you still have not responded to the reason scotland did not go to the world cup in 1950, were they being tight and did not want to pay for the flight to Brazil. :)
But no it is more comical that that.....as wikipedia states for the 1950 world cup "England finsihed first, with Scotland second, but the Scots refused to go as they were not British Champions"
I was expecting a reason along the lines of something to do with recovering from the war.
What the war that ended in 1945!? Hah!
we were still recovering as we are cannon fodder coz we are all well ard and nuts ;)
The effects of the war were still being felt, rationing was not stopped until around 1954
hahaha especially in the gorbals (a really bad part of Glasgea)
Well if you weren't all too busy wearing skirts, head butting each other and eating turnips you might have found the time to create your own television channels, radio shows, newspapers and clean drinking water.
turnips!? neeps you mean.
haggis would have been a better foodstuff to have said
who invented the TV?!
Clean drinking water??? hahaha you steal it from the scots and Welsh
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